Head to head
John Deere 317 P-Tier against Yanmar TL75VS-1C
The Yanmar TL75VS-1C saves $697; the Yanmar TL75VS-1C carries 430 lb more once both are rated the same way; the Yanmar TL75VS-1C moves 4.4 GPM more through the auxiliary circuit.
| Spec | John Deere 317 P-Tier | Yanmar TL75VS-1C |
|---|---|---|
| Price | $70,697 | $70,000 |
| Rated capacity, as advertised | 2,125 lbs | 2,555 lbs |
| Rated at | 35% of tipping load | 35% of tipping load |
| Tipping load | 6,070 lbs | 7,300 lbs |
| Capacity at its class convention | 2,125 lbs | 2,555 lbs |
| Engine power | 65 hp | 71.5 hp |
| Engine | Yanmar 4TNV86CHT | Yanmar 4TN86CHT |
| Auxiliary flow | 17 GPM | 21.4 GPM |
| Lift height | 121 in | 126.5 in |
| Operating weight | 8,423 lbs | 9,205 lbs |
| Lift path | Vertical Lift | Vertical Lift |
| Rubber tracks | Yes | Yes |
| High flow available | No | Yes |
| Enclosed cab available | Yes | Yes |
| Two-speed travel available | Yes | Yes |
| Self-levelling available | Yes | Yes |
| A/C and heat available | Yes | Yes |
| Warranty | 2 yr / 2,000 hr | 2 yr / 2,000 hr |
What owners say about each
John Deere 317 P-Tier
- Still genuinely pickup-towable at around 8,400 lbs, so one truck and trailer can move it between jobs without CDL-class equipment.
- Vertical lift with a 2,125 lb rated capacity clears dump truck sides and stacks pallets - rare abilities in the small-frame CTL class.
- The P-Tier cab is a big upgrade over the 317G: more volume, better sealing, and pressurization that actually keeps dust out with the A/C option.
- EH ISO joystick controls come standard with adjustable response, where the 317G made you pay extra or live with mechanical controls.
- The 65 hp turbo Yanmar needs no DEF, and the simple Tier 4 solution keeps ownership easy for part-time operators.
- No high-flow option exists, so the 17 GPM circuit rules out mulchers, cold planers, and other flow-hungry attachments.
- The 65 hp engine works hard pushing a full bucket uphill, and operators coming from mid-frames notice the power ceiling quickly.
- A loaded cab machine prices within reach of the 325 P-Tier, which offers substantially more capacity for not much more money.
- Rubber tracks and undercarriage service add real cost per hour compared to the wheeled 318 P-Tier - budget for track replacement around 1,200-1,500 hours.
- Deere's small-frame CTL resale trails Kubota and Takeuchi in some regions where those dealers dominate the compact market.
Yanmar TL75VS-1C
- The vertical lift path puts the hinge pin at 126.5 in, so it loads dump trucks and hoppers cleanly where radial machines in this class struggle.
- Yanmar's own 71.5 hp turbo diesel meets Tier 4 Final without DEF, one less fluid to stock and one less system to fail.
- The torsion-axle suspended undercarriage delivers a ride quality operators compare to ASV machines, letting them carry material faster over rough ground.
- Near-360-degree visibility from the cab with a standard suspended seat makes it one of the more comfortable mid-frames to run all day.
- A 7-inch color display and SmartAssist telematics are standard equipment, not options, which sweetens the value story against Bobcat and Deere.
- The 7,300 lb tipping load gives it a stable, planted feel with pallet forks, and the 2,555 lb rated capacity covers most landscape and construction loads.
- Machine-plus-track warranty coverage (2 yr/2,000 hr machine, 1 yr/1,000 hr tracks) is reassuring for a first-generation product.
- As a 2023-launch product there's minimal long-term reliability history, and early adopters are effectively the durability test fleet.
- Yanmar's CTL dealer network is still sparse compared with the big four, so service access varies wildly by region.
- Standard 21.4 gpm auxiliary flow is midpack, and the 26.7 gpm high-flow option still trails high-flow packages from Cat and Bobcat in this size.
- Resale is a question mark - the used market hasn't priced first-generation Yanmar CTLs yet.
- No DEF is nice, but the engine still carries a DPF, so short-cycle users will deal with regen interruptions.
- Yanmar's own TL75VP now sits beside it at the same 71.5 hp with a faster, lower-ground-pressure undercarriage, so the two overlap in the same showroom and a buyer has to know which track they want.